Honesty

Dec. 31st, 2004 01:53 pm
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[personal profile] rowyn
I'm actually current on my LJ friends list again. I just read the most recent entry ([livejournal.com profile] verminiusrex announced his newborn (and premature) son will be coming home from the hospital today. Hurrah!)

So I'm writing an entry now, and thinking about the year end. It's been a good year for me. I figure I'll do [livejournal.com profile] haikujaguar's accomplishment meme again, and an update of how my 2004 New Year's resolutions went. And some resolutions for 2005, because the 2004 ones went well enough that it'll be nice to do them again.

But right now, I'm thinking about something [livejournal.com profile] genesis_w wrote: "people are at their most honest when they're angry."

No, I don't think they are. An angry person will say things that they wonldn't say under other circumstances. And some people will say things that they have been thinking about for years but never said before. There's a kind of truth that emerges from people when they're angry, just as there's a kind of truth that comes out in depression and grief and fear and other unpleasant emotions.

But I don't know that it's a greater or deeper honesty. Perhaps for certain people it is. But angry people will lie, just like scared and depressed people will lie. Just as a polite person might lie so he doesn't hurt your feelings, an angry one may will lie so that he does. Or say things that he really and truly deeply believes, for the ten seconds or so that it takes to say them. And then realize: what was I thinking?

There's an inclination to think it's more true. To think that when I am in the throes of depression, my observations about my life are clearer and more insightful, unfettered by the instinctive desire to pretty things up, to make it more palatable. To think this hurts so much, it must be true. Lying to make people happy or to avoid difficulties or to smooth over problems, that we can believe. That's just politeness gone wrong. But surely no one would lie to create ill will, no one would lie to breed hatred, no one would lie to generate misery.

But we do, you know. We do all the time.

[livejournal.com profile] lady_anne once wrote something to the effect of 'you can tell someone a hundred nice things that you think of them, and they will all be blotted out by the memory of of one careless insult uttered when you were upset.' That's true, too.

But that doesn't make it right.

Date: 2004-12-31 09:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sandramort.livejournal.com
Congratulations on the baby coming home!!! How wonderful!!! I went to congratulate him on his page, but it wouldn't load.

It's funny... 30 years ago (when my sister was born), 28 weeks was considered premature enough to pretty much write off hope (though we didn't and this spring she's getting married!), but today it's got a 90% chance of survival. They're making such amazing progress medically!

It's good to hear some positive news today, I'm feeling pretty glum about the tsumani.

Date: 2004-12-31 10:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jordangreywolf.livejournal.com
I definitely agree that while anger might prompt me to drop some guards and say things that I would have otherwise politely kept in my head ... it also tends to prompt me to say things that are totally wrong, because I am currently swept up in emotions - and I'm looking at things emotionally, rather than rationally.

When I'm angry, things get blown all out of proportion. Whatever it is that has my goat is the most important and driving thing in the world at that moment. It's one of the reasons, when I get angry with [livejournal.com profile] gwendelkitty, I often want to retreat, to go sit by myself in the dark and the bedroom, and calm down for 10 minutes - without someone at hand telling me, "Chill out. You're getting angry." (Someone telling me to "chill out" has, for whatever reason, the opposite effect of what I suppose is intended.)

Once I have a time to take a breather, the whole world is a different place. Sometimes, I'm still upset, I still think that I'm right and someone else is wrong, or whatever. But a lot of the time - I'm not. The angry haze blows off, and I'm able to put things slightly more into perspective (though I won't for a moment claim that I'm beyond obsessing even when I'm not angry).

If I go about expecting that when someone is angry and they say hurtful things, then that's the truth, then ... well, I probably won't have too many relationships that can survive much abrasion.

Date: 2004-12-31 10:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zaimoni.livejournal.com
If you don't face up to what you emotionally believe, you will be surprised by what you emotionally believe. The fast track to What was I thinking?. After all, you didn't know that you were thinking that....

That, I think, is the most common implementation of double-mindedness, which quenches using James 1:5-8 as a 100% reliable mind booster.

Date: 2005-01-01 06:44 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] aryllian
This reminds me of a quote I pulled out of a book a few years ago:

"You try so hard to be honest with yourself and you wind up by making lies a little less pleasant to the taste."
--Laura, A Fine and Private Place by Peter S. Beagle

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