The time clock can suck because it enforces the "Blue collar VS White collar" division in the work place. It reminds the Blue collar worker that he cannot be trusted to keep his own hours and this distrust is probably reflected in other policies. IE: must stay "on campus." It's the equivalent of being 17 in high school and being forced to stay on campus, except you're an adult and 25. You can argue that in general, Blue collars should not to be trusted, but I'm not convinced you can argue the time clock is not divisive and juvenille. Perhaps if management was forced to clock in?
Yes, exactly. Plus: "If you don't expect me to be honest when I tell you what hours I worked, what the heck makes you think I'll be honest about working while I'm clocked-in?" :P
I see one significant error in your comment. The number 25 should be replaced with a number between 20 and 60, possibly higher in some areas.
With sane policies and management it's no big deal. With typical management it can be a giant nightmare.
Then again I've also sat in the divide between the (union) blue collars and management and had to punch a clock. It wasn't a big deal, but then it was also easy to have my card fixed when I screwed it up. For a while I was also working night shift there, I don't think I actually saw my boss more than once a week.
Yeah, I was just throwing a random, working-age number, out there. Honestly, I'd feel pretty shitty if I was clocking in at 60 years old. That's sort of ridiculous...
I worked at a place where all of my managers had to clock in and I never felt that it was a big deal there. EVERYONE clocked in so there was no obvious distrust of you over, say, your manager. I work at a place right now where no one has to clock in. I KNOW some people fudge their hours on a weekly basis and I would almost like to see a clock put in here just to see them get f#$%ed. Hence the comment that you can make an argument that blue collar workers shouldn't be trusted... However, the managers even now know people fudge their hours - they just don't care. So, perhaps the managers are the 'problem'.
I would personally be sort of insulted by them because, frankly, I'm a pretty honest employee. I wouldn't make a fuss about it though, it would be a minor annoyance to my self-respect.
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Date: 2009-08-31 06:14 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2009-08-31 10:23 pm (UTC)With sane policies and management it's no big deal. With typical management it can be a giant nightmare.
Then again I've also sat in the divide between the (union) blue collars and management and had to punch a clock. It wasn't a big deal, but then it was also easy to have my card fixed when I screwed it up. For a while I was also working night shift there, I don't think I actually saw my boss more than once a week.
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Date: 2009-09-01 04:04 pm (UTC)I worked at a place where all of my managers had to clock in and I never felt that it was a big deal there. EVERYONE clocked in so there was no obvious distrust of you over, say, your manager. I work at a place right now where no one has to clock in. I KNOW some people fudge their hours on a weekly basis and I would almost like to see a clock put in here just to see them get f#$%ed. Hence the comment that you can make an argument that blue collar workers shouldn't be trusted... However, the managers even now know people fudge their hours - they just don't care. So, perhaps the managers are the 'problem'.
I would personally be sort of insulted by them because, frankly, I'm a pretty honest employee. I wouldn't make a fuss about it though, it would be a minor annoyance to my self-respect.